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#1 10.May.18 12:39:21

Woody
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New Council Leader

The new leader of Oldham Council Sean Fielding has said he will do what he can to stop Oldham Town Centres £350 Million master plan has he feels its hard to justify spending while the towns people are enduring cuts,


I would if I could but I can't,

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#2 10.May.18 13:29:53

Erin
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It sounds good lets hope it is allowed to be put into practice.

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#3 10.May.18 13:35:46

Tony
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See Rebels avatar!!


War does not determine who is right - only who is left.

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#4 10.May.18 13:36:04

Tony
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Last edited by Tony (10.May.18 13:36:54)


War does not determine who is right - only who is left.

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#5 10.May.18 14:09:29

Penguin
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Just read the article in Oldham Times - Very difficult to argue with his reasoning.


Oh Brilliant!  big_smile

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#6 10.May.18 16:56:13

ridge walker
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Sean Fielding labour cllr for Failsworth West, first elected in 2012 aged 22, he defeated cllr Jean Stretton for leadership, she won her seat in Hollinwood then lost  her leadership roll following the local elections, Sean has  come out against the masterplan to demolish the QE2 Hall and the Market Hall, also the move from the civic centre, this will please the many who agree there is still life in these buildings, and need investment not replacing.  He works for the Ashton MP Angela Rayner as her press and communications officer.

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#7 10.May.18 17:13:36

Tabbycat
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How can you dislike the lad? He appears to have more common sense than the others who are 3 times his age.
There's hope for us yet.


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#8 11.May.18 06:45:25

Philpot
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The Momentum hatchet men are doing their work locally

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#9 11.May.18 07:15:33

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#10 11.May.18 07:59:02

James Larkin
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Philpot wrote:

The Momentum hatchet men are doing their work locally

Assuming you mean in relation to Sean being elected leader, you couldn't be more wrong. Sean is not a 'Corbynite'. Indeed, it is something to be thankful for that local politics in Oldham are not viewed through the prism of 'Corbynmania' that skews discussion on so much else in the party.

On the actual issue of Sean's election as leader, I look forward to what he has planned, including further support for Royton which I and other Royton councillors have already had conversations with him about.

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#11 11.May.18 10:31:50

Philpot
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OMBC have announced that Council meetings must now finish at 5pm so the the new leader can play on his Xbox for an hour before bedtime

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#12 11.May.18 11:13:22

Erin
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Philpot age does not enter into it.  There are some people who reach a great age but never grow up.  wink   Some people are mature and fit for purpose at an early age.

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#13 11.May.18 12:34:18

sg
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Philpot wrote:

The Momentum hatchet men are doing their work locally

I didn't know much about Momentum until you posted about them so much on here.
Since then they've been receiving my monthly standing order.


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#14 11.May.18 13:48:21

Philpot
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sg wrote:
Philpot wrote:

The Momentum hatchet men are doing their work locally

I didn't know much about Momentum until you posted about them so much on here.
Since then they've been receiving my monthly standing order.

Then maybe you should read this and see what your monthly standing order is paying for https://order-order.com/tag/momentum/

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#15 11.May.18 18:47:09

sg
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Thanks. I'll leave the standing order in place until a better option comes along


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#16 13.May.18 10:54:59

Philpot
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And now we learn that even Andy Burnham says Labour hounded Debbie Abrahams out

Corbyns Labour really is terrible

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#17 13.May.18 21:01:34

Barleycorn
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I saw Corbyn speak yesterday.

In person.

He was very good. 

Surrounded by - and thinking about - teachers, firemen, nurses, doctors, hlta's, ta's, council workers, hospital staff,  university staff etc etc.

Lots of banners representing the North West too - we, as a region, were well represented at the TUC march.

These are the people who work in, and operate, the parts of society that make Britain great. ( imo).

Yesterday, these people were there for Corbyn in large numbers.And he was vocal, compelling and clear in his support for them.

The only time you see these fine folks marching when Tories are around, they are massing to protest.

50,000 public sector workers protested in Manchester - rejecting the cuts agenda and the Tory lies about the economy -  totally covering the route, with people at the finish point before others set off from London Road. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk … er-6110129

These people are 'the good guys'.

Simplistic.

But it speaks volumes, imo.

Last edited by Barleycorn (13.May.18 22:40:41)


I went through ALL your posts, found nothing,

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#18 14.May.18 06:45:03

Philpot
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Barleycorn wrote:

I saw Corbyn speak yesterday.

In person.

He was very good. 

Surrounded by - and thinking about - teachers, firemen, nurses, doctors, hlta's, ta's, council workers, hospital staff,  university staff etc etc.

Lots of banners representing the North West too - we, as a region, were well represented at the TUC march.

These are the people who work in, and operate, the parts of society that make Britain great. ( imo).

Yesterday, these people were there for Corbyn in large numbers.And he was vocal, compelling and clear in his support for them.

The only time you see these fine folks marching when Tories are around, they are massing to protest.

50,000 public sector workers protested in Manchester - rejecting the cuts agenda and the Tory lies about the economy -  totally covering the route, with people at the finish point before others set off from London Road. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk … er-6110129

These people are 'the good guys'.

Simplistic.

But it speaks volumes, imo.

Did he say why he has hounded out Debbie Abraham?

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#19 14.May.18 12:59:04

Barleycorn
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No.

But a few of the union officials we travelled with had a view on this - suffice to say they were neither surprised nor unhappy with the decision.


I went through ALL your posts, found nothing,

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#20 14.May.18 14:56:48

Erin
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Barleycorn wrote:

I saw Corbyn speak yesterday.

In person.

He was very good. 

Surrounded by - and thinking about - teachers, firemen, nurses, doctors, hlta's, ta's, council workers, hospital staff,  university staff etc etc.

Lots of banners representing the North West too - we, as a region, were well represented at the TUC march.

These are the people who work in, and operate, the parts of society that make Britain great. ( imo).

Yesterday, these people were there for Corbyn in large numbers.And he was vocal, compelling and clear in his support for them.

The only time you see these fine folks marching when Tories are around, they are massing to protest.

50,000 public sector workers protested in Manchester - rejecting the cuts agenda and the Tory lies about the economy -  totally covering the route, with people at the finish point before others set off from London Road. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk … er-6110129

These people are 'the good guys'.

Simplistic.

But it speaks volumes, imo.


Barley, I totally agree that the public sector workers should be looked after financially, we would be lost without their expertise but are the Tory Party telling lies about the economy?   Who knows?  Do you think that when the time comes (and it has to, that is the way it works) the outgoing government will leave a memo for the new government to inform them all the money has been spent.  Surely this country doesn't deserve two consecutive governments to leave us bankrupt.

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#21 14.May.18 14:57:49

Philpot
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Barleycorn wrote:

No.

But a few of the union officials we travelled with had a view on this - suffice to say they were neither surprised nor unhappy with the decision.

So what were these union officials views Barleycorn.

Why were they so happy to get rid of Debbie Abrahams?

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#22 14.May.18 16:38:25

Barleycorn
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Erin wrote:
Barleycorn wrote:

I saw Corbyn speak yesterday.

In person.

He was very good. 

Surrounded by - and thinking about - teachers, firemen, nurses, doctors, hlta's, ta's, council workers, hospital staff,  university staff etc etc.

Lots of banners representing the North West too - we, as a region, were well represented at the TUC march.

These are the people who work in, and operate, the parts of society that make Britain great. ( imo).

Yesterday, these people were there for Corbyn in large numbers.And he was vocal, compelling and clear in his support for them.

The only time you see these fine folks marching when Tories are around, they are massing to protest.

50,000 public sector workers protested in Manchester - rejecting the cuts agenda and the Tory lies about the economy -  totally covering the route, with people at the finish point before others set off from London Road. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk … er-6110129

These people are 'the good guys'.

Simplistic.

But it speaks volumes, imo.


Barley, I totally agree that the public sector workers should be looked after financially, we would be lost without their expertise but are the Tory Party telling lies about the economy?   Who knows?  Do you think that when the time comes (and it has to, that is the way it works) the outgoing government will leave a memo for the new government to inform them all the money has been spent.  Surely this country doesn't deserve two consecutive governments to leave us bankrupt.

Eight years in, and the UK owes more, overall, than it ever has.   The tories are indeed lying about the economy - it is being run in the vested interest of the few.

The banking crisis was awful timing for Gordon Brown - but it was a worldwide event - and outside the control of any single govt.   

The note about the money was a silly thiong to do - albeit it was a (sort of) joke...   although we, as a country, have been living on an almost maxed out credit card for decades, tbh.   Most economies do, in reality.


But just look at the new 2018 Sunday Times rich list, and this page in particular is interesting, in that it lists people by categories, not just by wealth.

Look at the list of political donors, the amounts and the recipients.



RICH_LIST_TORY_DONORS.jpg

Another simplistic but very telling statistic - what is it about the tory party these people like so much?

Last edited by Barleycorn (14.May.18 16:40:53)


I went through ALL your posts, found nothing,

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#23 14.May.18 18:38:25

Erin
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BC we will never agree but please do not try to portray the Labour party as our salvation.  I was one of the working army when Labour last were in government for 13 years in total and they didn't make my life easier.

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#24 14.May.18 19:28:49

Barleycorn
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Did they make it worse though?

Even when the world's bankers conspired to crash the economy through lies and deceit.


I went through ALL your posts, found nothing,

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#25 14.May.18 19:36:43

Woody
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Barleycorn wrote:
Erin wrote:
Barleycorn wrote:

I saw Corbyn speak yesterday.

In person.

He was very good. 

Surrounded by - and thinking about - teachers, firemen, nurses, doctors, hlta's, ta's, council workers, hospital staff,  university staff etc etc.

Lots of banners representing the North West too - we, as a region, were well represented at the TUC march.

These are the people who work in, and operate, the parts of society that make Britain great. ( imo).

Yesterday, these people were there for Corbyn in large numbers.And he was vocal, compelling and clear in his support for them.

The only time you see these fine folks marching when Tories are around, they are massing to protest.

50,000 public sector workers protested in Manchester - rejecting the cuts agenda and the Tory lies about the economy -  totally covering the route, with people at the finish point before others set off from London Road. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk … er-6110129

These people are 'the good guys'.

Simplistic.

But it speaks volumes, imo.


Barley, I totally agree that the public sector workers should be looked after financially, we would be lost without their expertise but are the Tory Party telling lies about the economy?   Who knows?  Do you think that when the time comes (and it has to, that is the way it works) the outgoing government will leave a memo for the new government to inform them all the money has been spent.  Surely this country doesn't deserve two consecutive governments to leave us bankrupt.

Eight years in, and the UK owes more, overall, than it ever has.   The tories are indeed lying about the economy - it is being run in the vested interest of the few.

The banking crisis was awful timing for Gordon Brown - but it was a worldwide event - and outside the control of any single govt.   

The note about the money was a silly thiong to do - albeit it was a (sort of) joke...   although we, as a country, have been living on an almost maxed out credit card for decades, tbh.   Most economies do, in reality.


But just look at the new 2018 Sunday Times rich list, and this page in particular is interesting, in that it lists people by categories, not just by wealth.

Look at the list of political donors, the amounts and the recipients.



https://s31.postimg.cc/3zemjx2tj/RICH_LIST_TORY_DONORS.jpg

Another simplistic but very telling statistic - what is it about the tory party these people like so much?



After what Gordon Brown did with Private Pensions taking around £5 Billion from the investment funds that financed Private Pensions,

(I Think A One Off Tax) he should have been jailed for fraud,

People are still suffering today with reduced Pensions at a time of there lives when they need it owing to Browns ill thought out Scheme,

And after all the taxation we were almost Bankrupt when they were finally voted out were did the money go?,

But The Tories are no better, All Me Me And Me. And we suffer as usual with cut backs and austerity,


I would if I could but I can't,

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#26 14.May.18 20:51:47

exile
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Barley says in #22
The banking crisis was awful timing for Gordon Brown

You mean he didn’t leave government with as much money at T Blair !!  Well that’s true I suppose.

Gordon Brown just as much as the Bankers was respocible for the 2008 crash.  He has gone very quiet now I notice.


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#27 14.May.18 21:18:33

Philpot
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If we want to see what Corbyns economic policies would bring the U.K. then look at Venezuela today

This is the nation that Corbyn hailed as a socialist beacon and claimed that Chavez’s Venezuela was ‘an inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and neoliberal economics in Europe’



https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je … 75451.html

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#28 14.May.18 21:20:10

Barleycorn
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Oh yes, Venuz' zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


I went through ALL your posts, found nothing,

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#29 15.May.18 05:17:49

Philpot
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Barleycorn wrote:

Oh yes, Venuz' zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The left, like Corbyn, when called upon to condemn what’s happening in Venezuela in the name of socialism, goes all Zen, ignores it ..... and hopes the whole thing will go away.

But it’s clear that the great socialist experiment in Venezuela, which Labour admires so much, hasn’t delivered equality except in the sense that everyone, ... apart from the elite, .. goes hungry. As someone once said, all animals are equal but some are more equal than others (or tastier)

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#30 26.May.18 18:41:25

Philpot
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sg wrote:
Philpot wrote:

The Momentum hatchet men are doing their work locally

I didn't know much about Momentum until you posted about them so much on here.
Since then they've been receiving my monthly standing order.

And now you can see what you money is being spent on

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#31 26.May.18 18:51:23

sg
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Stop it or I’ll increase my donation!


[citation needed]

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#32 26.May.18 19:04:33

LittleRach
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Women’s rights.  Sounds good to me.  smile


Though we cannot make our sun stand still, yet we will make him run.

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#33 26.May.18 19:54:47

Philpot
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Re: New Council Leader

LittleRach wrote:

Women’s rights.  Sounds good to me.  smile

Yes the left are always very keen to tell you who’s rights to support

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#34 26.May.18 21:17:54

sg
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We are way off topic now smile
Closed


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